Jim Challenger guests on the podcast and talks with me about his journey into sourdough and what prompted him to design The Challenger Bread Pan. We discuss his entrepreneurial background and how his interactions with the sourdough Instagram community inspired him to build a baking device made specifically for the home sourdough baker. Jim shares how his design and testing process were fundamentally shaped by input from baking friends from around the country and how the sourdough community has motivated him all along the way - from a beginning baker to sourdough entrepreneur.